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 04-03-2009, 18:27 Post: 161698
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Trbo--where's Starvation Lake?

Are you planning on footers/rat walls for your barn? I've seen the 2" foam used on footers' outside, but not underneath the slab.

I have to wonder if putting anything that compresses like foam board will cause the concrete to crack easier and sooner seeing as it's not on anything that has been compressed like the underlayment base of stone or sand. Also, I know from removing concrete for a living that impact energy to the top surface of a slab poured on compacted materials transfers most of the energy to the ground and therefore doesn't crack it. If it's hit repeatedly it will however blow out a cone-shaped mass not unlike a BB-pellet hitting plate glass. However, concrete not touching anything to transfer that energy will crack easily.

From a practical standpoint, I have to think keeping the slab dry from underneath is key in not transferring cold through the moisture. We've done several barn floors and all we have been asked to use is heavy mil Visqueen as a vapor barrier






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 04-04-2009, 16:06 Post: 161709
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Conctere gonna crack nno matter what. The key is control joints or cuts. We don't go any more than 10' sq.






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Hmmm. If all it takes to make concrete not crack is rebar, then our roads should last forever. But they don't.

Rebar helps keep it together, but once it cracks the rebar is exposed to moisture and rusts and degrades until it fails. And it depends on what type and condition of rebar too: is it rusted already, is it new and not rusted, or is it coated?






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